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For Discussion

The purpose is to support educational planning and management, enabling postgraduate deans to keep track of location and progress of trainees. NTNs also inform workforce planning


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1
  • following appointment to a programme, an NTN (national training number) or Deans Reference Number (DRN) will be awarded

what’s the difference between the two?

which one is used when?



2
  • for docs in NHS and non-NHS employment, but not for LAT posts

what’s a LAT post?

does HEE look after non-NHS roles? ie should we be concerned with this?



3
  • trainees should only have 1, except in pre-approved circumstances
    • NTN should change to reflect that a trainee is undertaking a dual or sub-specialty programme

what should be done about those with multiple NTNs now?



4
  • where NTN is issued, it will be held so long as
    • trainee is in specialty training
    • trainee is out of programme on statutory grounds
    • or agreed out of programme

how do we know this is true for a trainee?



5
  • NTN’s only awarded to programmes with CCT or CESR/CESP/CEGPR/CEGCP
    • in order to receive the final award, they must have NTN

is a flag needed for those who do not have an NTN at a certain point in their training?

What should the single letter suffx be, assuming there needs to be one for each of the following - CCT / CESR / CESP / CEGPR / CEGCP - can they be defined by TIS?



6
  • core trainees will be awarded DRN, not NTN

how is a DRN different / made up?



7
  • NTN’s are persisted through the lifetime of a programme
    • even through research or career breaks

How is this currently handled?



8
  • where inter-deanery transfer takes place, a new NTN to be issued

What should the trigger point be?



9
  • NTN is removed where
    • completion of training
    • is assessed as unstable to continue
    • does not comply with requirements for maintaining their registration with Postgraduate Den
    • does not hold GC number
    • resigns
    • is dismissed
    • is erased/suspended from medical register
    • at Dean’s discretion

What should be the process be to "remove" an NTN? (New scenario)



10
  • where an NTN has been removed it can be reinstated

with the old one?



11
  • Some specialty training award NTN(I)

who specifically should have this?

how do we structure the number?



12
  • Defence Medical Services - Successful candidates for specialty training will be selected as required by the DMS. Those appointed as Specialty Registrar (StR) will be awarded a DPMD NTN by the Defence Postgraduate Medical Dean and the prefix of the NTN will remain “TSD” to designate the trainee as a Defence Deanery trainee
  • once this is complete, they need to seek training as a civilian and will be awarded a new NTN
  • relinquish DPMD NTN


whats the current process?