Posts - Feedback

• select Posts or Search Posts from nav bar
• all location filters on + current but no results can be found
• error message accurate, but why should all filters be on?
• what should behaviour be? (JW)
• no results are presented unless all location filters are deselected

Users should see a list of the posts at their local office as a default (if this is what their role/security allows)

Data for Post 'Owner' needs to be mapped across to current Local Office names, then this will function - being changed within Intrepid

• no site, programme, funding type, or current trainee data showing in list nor in detail. 

• when you go into a single post and go back out, you return to all location filtered list with no results

• NPN does not appear in the details page

• Is Post data among the components that will be tidied up?

• Local Office filter does not work on the Post list yet. 

 As per pt.1 - Once the data is resolved in Intrepid this should work.

Note: there will be a few 'Owner' data items we don't currently provide in the filter e.g. Wales Deanery, Defence Deanery - this will require a further discussion

• Employing body (field 10) and Training body (field 11) values do not appear in the details page

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TISDEV-2937 - Getting issue details... STATUS

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TISDEV-2938 - Getting issue details... STATUS

TISDEV-2928 - Getting issue details... STATUS

1.  Confirmation that the MVP will be the ability to record the Post Funding Type. Question - are the possibilities Tariff, Trust, MADEL and Other?  Or are there any other options out there?  Remember the aim is to keep simple and build from there.
2. Do you agree that we also need to record the post funding from and to dates?
3. Do we need to record level of post in a first iteration?
4. Public Health posts, GP Practice posts and University clinical lecturer posts are all funded on Actuals - true or false?

1. Tariff, Trust, MADEL and Other are what we have got by with so far. Maybe an "If Other:..." free text box would be useful though 
2. Yes please
3. Could be derived from the post (Approved grade) but would be useful for reporting so that the report could be all from one table
4. True for us

TISDEV-2929

JW to confirm whether this needs to be imported for historical data from DR

Joining this conversation late, but let me clarify for London. Funding Body is crucial as it is the body that receives the LDA pack of which this post needs to be a part. That applies even when the funding type is Trust. Funding Body is distinct from Employing Body because in the case of a Lead Employer, such as we have for Public Health, GPs and Palliative Medicine in London, the Employing Body will be the Lead Employer, which is usually not the Funding Body. Equally Funding Body is not necessarily the same as the Training Body, for example for our Palliative Medicine Hospice posts, the Training Body is the Trust that has a special training relationship with the Hospice but the Funding Body in these cases is actually the Lead Employer. We even have the odd case, e.g. for a GP Hospice post, where the Fundi8ng Body, Employing Body and Training Body are all different. What is therefore very important for us is that any report listing all posts should specify all three of these fields.

I've just had a quick glance at the field validation document and for 'National Post Number' it says 'not editable'. In the East Midlands we currently do edit the post number during creation in order to create OOP bucket posts (which I believe was the agreed national process). So I think we need to have this field as it currently exists - i.e. it still pre-populates based on grade/site etc. but can later be edited if necessary

Also, we are obliged to edit some NPNs e.g. to add /M to the end of a military post as per national guidelines, as noted in the "Suffix" entry

the exact structure of the bucket posts vary from region to region, but an example for East Midlands would be EMD/OOP/CMT/S - where EMD is our local office code, OOP to identify it's a bucket post, CMT is the specialty and S is our south rotation

In NW we would use /S to signify a Supernumerary post and I think that this was agreed in a HEDG meeting.  All our OOP bucket posts are now NWE/OOPx  ( x = post type, C / E / P / R ) as, again, I thought that was what was agreed at HEDG.

I don't think you should have different posts for OOPR/OOPC etc., as that should be detailed in Placement Type. You are right about /S being supernumerary though.

Our OOP posts use the GMC programme codes, and we have one per programme e.g. WMD/682/OOP would be the CMT OOP post, WMD/682/DEFERRAL would be the CMT deferral post

Find it useful for doing the recruitment numbers if I can see all the current OOP placements for a programme just by going into the relevant post

No agreement about how to manage record OOP posts has yet been reached.  Paper has been written but full agreement with data leads in LOs is not in place yet (JW 9.11.17)

(IO) What's the timeline for understanding this? To clarify with SMLs 10/01

Gwilym WIlliams, Dale Gilbert and Tom de Salis

We've just had our placements SML meeting and a point was raised regarding clinical supervisors which I didn't want to be lost between the 2 groups.

Would it be a good idea to have it optional to select a clinical supervisor against a post so that it can auto-populate in placements? The reason being that for many specialties/sites the supervisor will always be the same for a specific post, and so it would reduce input time for placements if it could pre-populate. It would still need to be editable in placements for when this isn't the case, or if the supervisor is different for whatever reason

Open to Post SMLs for comment

(IO) Current specification means that multiple supervisors can be added to a post, then when creating/editing the Placement, a drop-down is produced. If they want to add a supervisor who is not in the drop down, the admin would have to edit the post.

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TISDEV-2939

The following label headers are incorrect

• national post number
• specialty

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TISDEV-2940

Can I start a new thread about joint site posts. These are very common in Orthodontics but can occur in other specialties too?

There is no way to properly represent these in Intrepid. We need to do better in TIS. The basic situation is that there is the need to allow for training placements that spend a portion of the time at one site and the rest of the time at another site. This may be 50/50 but can be as skewed as 80/20 or exceptionally even 90/10. There is not much of an issue if the two Sites are at the same trust, as we just make it a multi-site post and all the funding goes to the one Trust. But the problem occurs when the two sites are in different Trusts. We currently create two NPNs, one for each Trust. We can specify with Funding Components how much funding goes to each. But we cannot formally link the two posts so that a placement in one is seen as intimately involved with a placement in the other. I had thought it would be good to create a single post with multiple sites and multiple funding components, but it doesn't work because how do you specify multiple Funding Bodies? The Funding Body is used to determine which Trust's LDA payment the funding is part of and if we send Trusts lists of posts the post would need to be in the lists for both Trusts. So I'm now thinking keeping two posts but adding a formal linking mechanism is the best solution. Comments please!

Open to Post SMLs for comment

(IO) Options to be discussed:

1. Add multiple sites + funding body + funding type per site
2. Link current posts to one another
3. Not MVP?

Think this is a Post to local office link issue - JW to investigate more

(JW) to review bug

Placement info within the trainee record.

Please could you include the WTE? That way we can see at a glance if a post has a slot share (or potential for a slot share). This would also be useful in the person>placement list so that we don't have to go into each placement to see if someone was working LTFT and which % they were at.

For discussion with devs

(IO) Display "Slot Share Allowed?" toggle? Also possible to display WTE in placement, however People list page has severa columns - either need to have Placements list, or remve another column?

(JW) Clarify "Potential for Slot Share"

(JW) Display WTE in Post List

Post funding update:

Public Health salary recharges

1. Self-funding, e.g. for endodontics, periodontics and prosthodontics
2. Military
3. Education Resources budget
4. Exceptional training budget
5. GP practice salary recharges through Lead Employer
6. Palliative medicine hospice salary recharges through Lead Employer
7. Project funding – needs free text box to explain what Project
8. Full funding based on trainee grade through LDA Other Education & 

(IO) Are the 2 sets of points un-related? i.e. funding type "other" allows free text and then points 1-8 are other drop down options?

(JW) post MVP? Not functional equivalence

James Harris

David Rayner

Live review: removing filters is very slow

Just been playing around and found an issue with the filtering by local office. Not sure if this is known...

When I logged in I had the filters on posts including "Health Education England North Central and East London" but when I searched for a post which had this as a local office it wasnt showing. I removed all the filters and I can then see the post. The post I was trying to find is LDN/RAL26/DC2/DC2/001. 

I've been trying to look into this for you but I'm experiencing problems filtering on the Post list now. As soon as the devs have fixed the filtering problems I'll be able to look at what is causing this problem for you. Just wanted to confirm that I'm not ignoring your comment!

(JW) bug TBC by Devs - cannot see exact filter (CLH to clarify filter name), but none of "Health Education England North Central London" posts can be found

I'll add the query about the duplicate Public Health post number to the list of queries to look at

(JW) yes, ticket to be created

(IO) Alphabetical order according to which field/column? The columns are sortable, does this resolve?

(JW) add Programme Number to Post record as prog numbers are defined by the training local office. Autopopulate the Programme Name when Programme number has been input.

(IO) none is because it's a mandatory field, so something must be entered

(IO) Funding body is legacy in V10 however there can be more than one funding org in the funding components part of V10 - what do the SMLs want us to do with this info - do we select the non local office org?

(IO) was BUG: duplicate posts - fixed now?

(IO) BUG: main sites not showing

(IO) BUG: approved grades showing incorrectly

(IO) sounds like ETL issues

Missing data - reported by a number of SMLs. Will raise ticket

Raise ticket to get placement headings included in list

Fix backend info being surfaced 

Ticket raised for navigation issues

Ticket to investigate missing placements

(IO) clarification required, all Post numbers are to be autogenerated

Navigate to Post - I can navigate to the Posts section.

View Post List - I can sort Posts by Post Number and filter on multiple columns. I can navigate between pages. But I have on occasions ended up with a Filter applied that is not show in the filter list (header).

Search Post - I can sort Posts by Post Number and filter on multiple columns. I can navigate between pages. But I have on occasions ended up with a Filter applied that is not show in the filter list (header).

View / Edit Post Detail (including funding elements) - I can View/Edit a post and add Funding Elements but when I try to Save it says Site ID cannot be null or negative, Grade ID cannot be negative (twice).

Create New Posts (Single) - When I try to Save a new Site it says Site ID cannot be null or negative, Grade ID cannot be negative.

Link Programme - I can’t see where to add a Programme to a Post or visa versa.

Delete Post Funding - I don’t know what this means.

Create New Post (Bulk) - I don’t know where to do this.

View Post Detail - I can view Post details.

Link new post to old post - I don’t know where to do this.

Unlink programme - I can’t see where to remove a Programme from a Post or visa versa.

(JW) Post ownership.

Have story to record/report on historical programme to post relationships

Above feedback though shows what we look at in training coleagues on TIS

Create funding, not associated with a post - I don’t know what this means.No 

Add leave approver - I don’t know where to do this.

(IO) not yet developed story

Related to approvals chains 

Reporting on vacancies and fill rates - I don’t know where to do this.

(IO) not yet developed story - PART OF REPORTING COMPONENT

Vacancy Matrix being looked at by EoE and vacancy and fill rates are national requirements so form part of the NDW work