Course & Event Management - CBMS | Meeting Minutes 10/11/2017
Background:
Conversation with the aim to reach a decision and / or take actions over the CBMS course management system. We need to understand what we are to do with this module. The options available to us are:
- Whether the business impact is so great that we need to re-procure the Intrepid module. This will retain the status quo and give more time to manage change post TCS.
- Whether the team can migrate onto an existing non-Intrepid system.
- Whether the team can adopt reduced function as per TCS.
- Whether the team can implement another temporary solution e.g. reverting to spreadsheets.
Agenda:
- What is the expected MVP in TCS and what is the post TCS intention
- To understand how the module is current used (high level)
- To consider the options based on comparing what is required against MVP and possible future, applying the above options
- To take a decision and / or record actions
Attendees:
Alice Brindle, Alistair Pringle, AshleyRansoo, Benjamin Witton, Gemma Crackett, Gerard O'Reilly, Ify Onyenokwe-Orhiunu, Jeff Avenall, Jo Stevens, Joanne Watson, Martyn Clark, Robert Pink, Simon Davis, Angela Blyth.
Meeting minutes
Study leave manager (Intrepid), Course Booking (CBMS)
- TIS Proposed MVP: Rudimentary recording of a course a trainee has been on and the dates within 'absence' section of a person record
- No teaching session recording for MVP
Management of courses and events:
- Q: Angela: Payments handing. Maxcourse has the option to do so.
- Is the procurement achievable by the end or march?
- Challenges are when Intrepid is removed and courses that are recorded on there would need to be migrated in time to the new system.
- Maxcourse is mostly used for dental courses
- TCS – does not include online payment but could be something we consider Post-MVP if we were to consider implementing within TIS.
- CBMS – significant cost to re-procure. Hicom offering is 200K just for HEE.
- Angela: No capacity to go for another option and manage manually with the timeframe
- Alistair – to take us over to march we need to either re-procure other booking systems or revert back to rudimentary options.
- Gerard O’Reilly – Risks for the time that we have to re-procure and getting up to speed with the new system.
- Programme Board will challenge the decision to re-procure CBMS, unless the real risks are well defined and presented to them. Likewise, they will support the decision to re-procure if there is a real risk.
- Joanne: Course Booking is not just for trainees. Suggestion is to keep 2 options for us open, considering procuring of a different system as the second option and find out if your requirements fit the system.
- CBMS is not used in the same way in all Local Offices.
- Angela Blyth: On-board to support something different, but need to know the shortest period we could re-procure CBMS (Currently minimum 2 years, but that’s purely on an NHS requirement which Hicom follows) to allow us time to evaluate and put in place an interim option.
- More scoping is required for Maxcourse which has good feedback from the south at the moment.
- Martyn Clark – Consider the one that has been procured in London. 2 systems in London. (Dental and non-dental)
- Gemma – Big users of CBMS have a risk of migration. They have bookings of up to March 2019 on the system. Migration will be a challenge. Suggestion is to extend CBMS for a year at least to allow for enough time to re-procure
- Rob Pink: Need your involvement on the Programme board
- To summarise:
- Agreed that TCS is too rudimentary to replace CBMS
- Time constraints and risks to re-procure another system
- Contingency – request for a min duration of 6 months to re-procure CBMS
- Mini project outside of TCS: End of November – Have a Specification that can be used in a tendering process (e.g. online payment, CPD, Certificates, etc.)
- A representative from each Local Team (including dental)
- Work out how we transition to new systems
- G-Cloud allows for an easier and speedier procurement
- Look at what London has already done in this area- (Martyn Clark). Would it be useful if we could profile what other Local Offices use and see how good they are? Skype calls to visualise the various systems to evaluate.
- Organise skype calls in some sort of mini project with BM’s to evaluate the systems.
- Angela – Continue work to standardise/align process across Local Offices if the direction is to go for a common system.
- Rob to run a conversation with Martyn regarding how this is structured
Slack: https://hee-nhs-tis.slack.com/
Jira issues: https://hee-tis.atlassian.net/issues/?filter=14213